Comments on: The International Journal of Haruspicy, or the problem of statistical significance https://lauravanderkam.com/2016/07/the-international-journal-of-haruspicy-or-the-problem-of-statistical-significance/ Writer, Author, Speaker Tue, 17 Apr 2018 14:03:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Omdg https://lauravanderkam.com/2016/07/the-international-journal-of-haruspicy-or-the-problem-of-statistical-significance/#comment-32558 Fri, 15 Jul 2016 20:33:59 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=6160#comment-32558 In reply to Ana.

Scientists definitely need to do a better job conveying the meaning of their results to the media, but honestly most journalists have little interest in nuance. They want something sexy that will draw a lot of readers.

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By: Ana https://lauravanderkam.com/2016/07/the-international-journal-of-haruspicy-or-the-problem-of-statistical-significance/#comment-32557 Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:40:43 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=6160#comment-32557 In reply to Omdg.

And that’s the problem—maybe economists and scientists and people who have studied and trained on interpreting research studies can synthesize that data and draw conclusions, but most people really don’t understand what “significant” means in terms of research. Its irresponsible to expect that people reading a news article can understand the subtleties involved rather than being swayed by the headline and sound bites. Ignorant and painful and can lead to real harm when people misunderstand/misinterpret medical findings.

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By: Omdg https://lauravanderkam.com/2016/07/the-international-journal-of-haruspicy-or-the-problem-of-statistical-significance/#comment-32556 Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:26:25 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=6160#comment-32556 In reply to Ana.

A lot of economists don’t do a bonferroni or even s holm test for multiple comparisons, but would instead advocate that the authors be transparent about how many comparisons were made and allow readers to draw their own conclusions, and yes, a lot of research is crap. But even worse is the ignorance of the media and the way in which they present results. So painful!

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By: Alexicographer https://lauravanderkam.com/2016/07/the-international-journal-of-haruspicy-or-the-problem-of-statistical-significance/#comment-32555 Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:03:37 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=6160#comment-32555 In reply to Ana.

Yes, and I’d defend (?) the .05 cutoff lump in journal articles by noting that plenty of studies are designed to include enough subjects (but not more ) to generate detectable results at that point — though the tea leaves of power calculations are an issue in their own right. Still, interesting points and sounds like a good read.

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By: Ana https://lauravanderkam.com/2016/07/the-international-journal-of-haruspicy-or-the-problem-of-statistical-significance/#comment-32554 Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:30:59 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=6160#comment-32554 Sorry—have to say it: But you have to control for multiple comparisons (so p<0.05 not necessarily significant when you are doing TWENTY comparisons!)
I do get the point, however, and it was really eye-opening when I actually started doing research and publishing manuscripts how tenuous findings could be and still be "significant" and "publishable".

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