Comments on: Full is not crazy https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/ Writer, Author, Speaker Thu, 21 Mar 2019 07:01:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Things around the internet • The Power of Thrift https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/#comment-65543 Thu, 21 Mar 2019 07:01:39 +0000 https://lauravanderkam.com/?p=16970#comment-65543 […] Full is not crazy […]

]]>
By: Geen https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/#comment-50080 Fri, 14 Dec 2018 05:22:23 +0000 https://lauravanderkam.com/?p=16970#comment-50080 In reply to xykademiqz.

I too am highly introverted and find Laura’s weekends really scary. They are way too full for me. However, although I avoid parties like the plague, I still end up going to lots of lunches, teas and dinners with close friends. Make one or two close friends at primary school, high school, university, the first job, the second, the third job, and they all add up. At one time in my life, I would say yes to every invitation to meet up and end up with crazy, full weekends. How I apply Laura’s advice to planning the weekends is to ensure that I plan for restorative activities and alone time, so that I don’t feel totally drained by all my weekend activities on Monday.

]]>
By: BethC https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/#comment-45144 Tue, 02 Oct 2018 12:40:55 +0000 https://lauravanderkam.com/?p=16970#comment-45144 I typically want at least one day a week where we have nothing planned in the morning, which tends to default to Sunday in our case. I just hate rushing everyone out the door and like a leisurely morning sipping coffee in pajamas occasionally. But, after hearing Laura’s suggestion to plan your weekends and thinking it over a bit, we’ve started planning the weekends a bit more to make sure we fit in the fun stuff. This past weekend, we went to an Oktoberfest at a local brewery on Saturday afternoon and did a hike on Sunday morning. Although I wouldn’t necessarily have planned these things before, I was glad that we did them. I definitely think there’s a personal preference here and you have to find the balance that’s restorative but still rewarding for you and your family. I think it can also depend on your kids. One of my kids is kind of intense, so she needs more downtime. It’s all about figuring out what works for your family, and I appreciate Laura’s perspective because it’s usually very different from my instinctive preferences!

]]>
By: Rinna https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/#comment-44944 Wed, 26 Sep 2018 12:48:48 +0000 https://lauravanderkam.com/?p=16970#comment-44944 In reply to Kathleen.

I love this comment! ” A competitive race for emptiness” Ha!

]]>
By: Tatjana https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/#comment-44928 Tue, 25 Sep 2018 21:23:46 +0000 https://lauravanderkam.com/?p=16970#comment-44928 I also think it’s not about introvert/extrovert ‘divide’. My husband and I are by no means extroverts–and our preferred occupations are fairly solitary (reading, writing, swimming, coding) but we tend to have pretty ‘busy’ weekends. The last one featured early morning yoga class (me), taking older child to music lessons, attending the children’s drama performance, after that taking a bunch of children (ours and friends’) for a post-theatre icecreams, then friends’ visit to eat dinner and play board games in our home; the next day taking children to swimming lessons, coming back by 10 to attend a family birthday brunch (husband’s grandmother), then coming back home to change and go to a good friends’ son’s birthday. Not every weekend is like that, but it is by no means unusual.
I think, rather than introversion/extroversion, it is 1) about planning and sense of control 2) need to have a diverse span of activities. A bit like Laura, I *hate* to wake up on Saturday morning without having a reasonably clear plan what I’m going to do the next day. And while it can mean not leaving the house for two days (e.g. it can be ‘playing board games with children’, ‘gardening on Sunday morning’), a ‘diverse span’ usually does include some outings. It can rarely include much uninterrupted writing and reading time, as my children are still relatively young and are best not left unsupervised for longer stretches of time!

]]>
By: Laura Vanderkam https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/#comment-44926 Tue, 25 Sep 2018 20:43:03 +0000 https://lauravanderkam.com/?p=16970#comment-44926 In reply to xykademiqz.

@xykademiqz – thanks for the comment, it’s always fascinating to hear how other people approach time, and I know you think about it a lot. Curiously enough, I always rate as an introvert on the personality quizzes. From my understanding, introverts don’t mind interacting with people we know well, and that’s who I spent most of the weekend with: family, my husband’s close colleagues, other parents we’ve known for 8 years at the preschool, my fellow choir members that I sing with every week. There was also not-talking-to-anyone time both days: running long on Saturday; a lot of time in the car to/from the Eagles game on Sunday (my son had his decompression time playing his Nintendo Switch once it looked like we’d be in traffic for a while). And both nights reading in bed for a bit.

]]>
By: xykademiqz https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/#comment-44924 Tue, 25 Sep 2018 19:23:29 +0000 https://lauravanderkam.com/?p=16970#comment-44924 Not quite so full is not crazy either. I appreciate Laura’s work, but every time I read one of the posts, especially posts on weekend downtime (a misnomer in Laura’s case if there ever was one), I break out in hives, so I try to stay away from the blog. The thing is, I did read this post, and there is a righteousness undercurrent running through it (and many similar ones), which I found jarring (“Of course you have to plan everything, and if you don’t, things won’t happen”), so here I am, breaking my rule of no commenting.

First, most people don’t rely on outside help so much that booking them or not would make or break an engagement. I have never in my life hired a babysitter in order to go to a party. Most people don’t make enough money for all the outside help. But Laura’s family does, so kudos to them.

Second, I am quite introverted and my hobbies are solitary (writing fiction). But I do enjoy kids’ sports and music and am always the one taking the kids to those events. However, I do greatly prefer if I don’t have to socialize with anyone during these events, or if it’s with people I know very well. I get alone time over the week in my office at work, but if I don’t, like over summer break, I become really unpleasant. As much as I love my kids, extended vacations are torture because I am always on. My husband is *extremely* introverted. He’s much worse than me and really doesn’t tolerate people very well. He absolutely abhors small talk.

We don’t go to many parties (often I will go but he won’t) because parties are overwhelmingly an unpleasant and shallow waste of time for us (yes, just like you say “Such time is effortlessly fun, but it’s also completely forgettable. It disappears as if it never existed” — I say that for a vast majority of IRL social interactions, including parties). I think extroverted people just reject this notion that time IRL with people is not inherently magical and meaningful to everyone. Parties suck; mingling with people sucks. I can do it as well as anyone when I need to (e.g., at work) but it’s not my idea of fun to spend free time on the small-talk inanity. Many experiences (amusement parks, stadiums, etc.) also suck because of crowds. I hate crowds. I even go shopping at the most unusual time in order to avoid crowds and to avoid extremely chatty salespeople.

Time on the computer isn’t always mindless. I have no Facebook/Instagram/Snapchat , only my blog and literary Twitter. Some of my most meaningful personal connections are with the people whom I found online, and these connections arose from common interests and hobbies, rather than from physical proximity.

Extroverts, by all means continue to extrovert and more power to you, but please leave us introverts alone. We really wish you would.

]]>
By: Kathleen https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/#comment-44919 Tue, 25 Sep 2018 15:45:36 +0000 https://lauravanderkam.com/?p=16970#comment-44919 Hahaha, I saw that line on Instagram too! And groaned. That line encapsulates my beef with the online minimalism movement. They incant “less stuff, more experiences” but then in — what, branding gone wild? — start eschewing experiences too. What are you folks doing all weekend, staring at your blank white wall?

Yes, individual tolerance levels for activity may vary, but with the minimalism crowd it feels like there’s a competitive race for emptiness. And that’s kinda, well, boring.

]]>
By: Laura Vanderkam https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/#comment-44903 Tue, 25 Sep 2018 00:03:20 +0000 https://lauravanderkam.com/?p=16970#comment-44903 In reply to Marci.

@Marci – that’s good that you plan outings for you and friends or the kids. That way you still get to do them! The issues more arise when one party’s desire to stay home winds up holding everyone else there, whether they want to be or not.

]]>
By: Laura Vanderkam https://lauravanderkam.com/2018/09/full-is-not-crazy/#comment-44902 Tue, 25 Sep 2018 00:00:22 +0000 https://lauravanderkam.com/?p=16970#comment-44902 In reply to Gillian.

@Gillian – no brilliant thoughts. I would think you could actually stick with the schedule and leave the 2.5 year old to have special daddy time in the afternoons while you do stuff with the big kids. It’s not perfect downtime if they’re watching cartoons together but in a 2-parent, 4-kid family, I think you have to negotiate and agree to trade off to get solo downtime on the weekend. So sure, you take all 4 at one point if he then agrees to take all 4 at some other point (which you then use to go out and do stuff with friends, since you like to do more of that).

It is hard to satisfy all four! We do all like swimming at the indoor pool at the YMCA on winter weekends. Some science museums have stuff that 11-year-olds and 3-year-olds like. We did a reasonable number of county fairs this summer because the big kids liked the rides and games and the little kids liked the animals.

]]>