Comments on: How to manage a full-time job, kids, and start a business too https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/ Writer, Author, Speaker Tue, 17 Apr 2018 14:08:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Yana https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/#comment-30156 Fri, 08 Jan 2016 21:49:10 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=5722#comment-30156 I do photography in addition to my office job, and I do email and some social media work in the morning before we leave to work/drop off little guy at the babysitter; do editing during lunch break (an hour), and combination of everything in tiny chunks of time when we get home after work. My 2-year old can play on his own with just a little bit of my assistance, so I can have a laptop in my lap and do a little bit of work then. I am a person who needs lots of sleep so I go to bed right after little guy goes down at around 9:30-10:00pm.

On the weekends, I get more done because there is a baby’s nap time and just longer chunks of time when he plays.
I wish I needed less sleep so I could work a little more in the evening, but this is not an option.

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By: ARC https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/#comment-30155 Fri, 16 Oct 2015 04:09:40 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=5722#comment-30155 In reply to Ana.

I’m finding that some of these tasks – researching something online, making calls, unloading dishwasher, etc. are great “transition” activities between real tasks or family outings.

I work from home, so I sometimes do these in between larger work tasks during the day, but it’s also been effective to try to quickly get them done while I’m waiting for people to get ready to go somewhere, etc. (rather than puttering around online or doing random tasks as I see them – marking that time for something very specific seems to help.)

What is NOT working for me is 30 min of “chore time” in the evenings after the kids are in bed. I am way too tired for that and need that time to be fun for me (or more paid work as needed).

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By: Karen https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/#comment-30154 Wed, 14 Oct 2015 20:39:55 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=5722#comment-30154 In reply to Ana.

I sort of wish I could approach admin tasks that way, but I can’t. I only really wish it because I’ve had other people tell me that that is how you *have* to do it, otherwise it will “expand to fill the available time.” Which is a valid point, but when I try to fit it in “here and there,” I forget things, drop balls, and am surprised by deadlines. People start yelling at me, my anxiety and stress level goes way up, and it seeps into the rest of my productivity. For me, the “mental load” issue is huge.

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By: Erin https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/#comment-30153 Mon, 12 Oct 2015 14:29:12 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=5722#comment-30153 If she is working until 12:30 am how can she possibly be getting enough sleep, unless she is one of those rare super-human who only require 5-6 hours? (And just because you get by on 5-6 hours doesn’t mean that’s really what you need). I’m just assuming that because it says she has 2 young kids she must have to get up by 6 or 7. Although maybe she is lucky enough to have a spouse or babysitter/nanny who deals with the kids in the morning.

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By: lauravanderkam https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/#comment-30152 Fri, 09 Oct 2015 15:06:02 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=5722#comment-30152 In reply to Ana.

@Ana- I do go back and forth on whether it’s best to do these a bit at a time or all at once. And how to lighten the mental load is a perpetual problem. It’s probably good to split the mental load in a household, but our own tasks always seem bigger in our minds and we may not remember what other people are remembering for us…

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By: Ana https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/#comment-30151 Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:49:57 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=5722#comment-30151 In reply to Rinna.

For me, those are the things I fit in here and there. I don’t devote a large chunk of time to doing any one of those “admin” type tasks because I don’t want them to occupy a large chunk of my life. They do, however, need to get done! So I just fit them in during breaks at work or home. That time is counted as “work” or “family” because that’s the primary focus of that hour, though maybe 2-5 minutes was spent ordered diapers or texting a babysitter. Those tasks do exert a mental load, though, so I’m not sure my way is the best way. I was considering whether setting aside 10-15 minutes a few evenings a week may be a better way to compartmentalize it.

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By: Ingrid https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/#comment-30150 Thu, 08 Oct 2015 22:31:10 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=5722#comment-30150 In reply to Rinna.

I often find I divide things into work, personal, admin and family time mentally and then have subsets. But it’s rare that something is purely one category outside of work. My day would broadly be broken up into 7-9:30am is a combination of personal, admin & family time. This morning for example I spent time meditating & doing personal reading before my daughter woke up at 7:30am, then spent half an hour getting her up, dressed & fed (she’s still a toddler) & then between 8am & 9am was a mixture of family & admin stuff (arranging nanny, planning a weekend drive, putting in load of washing, making husband coffee to drink in bed cause I was feeling nice) but because my daughter is with me & watching & ‘helping’ while I do these I count them mentally as mostly family time. So I would probably say I spent 90 minutes on my family this morning but really it’s more complex than that. Maybe that helps explain it….

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By: Rinna https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/#comment-30149 Thu, 08 Oct 2015 17:31:47 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=5722#comment-30149 In reply to lauravanderkam.

You are probably right, and yet I’d still like to see a time log featured anywhere that really highlights when people get these things done. Because, unfortunately, life is more than work, family time, personal time. There are also activities that need to be done but aren’t particularly valued in any of these categories (though watch out if the kids don’t get their bday parties 😉 ) Let’s ask Emilia when she does it!

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By: lauravanderkam https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/#comment-30148 Thu, 08 Oct 2015 16:54:56 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=5722#comment-30148 In reply to Rinna.

@Rinna- true. One thing to consider is that this schedule represents an ideal day/week. As I see with time logs, there is never an ideal week. So my guess is that for anyone attempting this, some evening part of the business time gets taken over for stuff, or some early morning, or part of the weekend (particularly if someone is trying not to work on weekends, a lot of household admin stuff may happen then). And sometimes one’s partner may be primarily responsible for these things too.

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By: Rinna https://lauravanderkam.com/2015/10/how-to-manage-a-full-time-job-kids-and-start-a-business-too/#comment-30147 Thu, 08 Oct 2015 16:35:34 +0000 http://lauravanderkam.staging.wpengine.com/?p=5722#comment-30147 Good for her to pursue her entrepreneurial spirit! I do find, however, that all of these descriptions of a week tend to skim over the administrative tasks that are necessary to run a household, what I sometimes call the “keep the lights on” activities. I am a huge, huge proponent of outsourcing, and even so, there are things that have to get done – the school forms, the doctor appointments, the online food/clothes/whatever shoppping, the bill payment, getting appliances fixed, organizing bday parties, researching camps, etc. Even with an immense amount of outsourcing, it still takes time to think about these things and either (a) get them done yourself or (b) get somebody else to do them.

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